Comments on: Unaspirated T’s from the mouth of Babes http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/ Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:40:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ‘Scuse me while I mix up voiced and voiceless-unaspirated stops : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-1720 ‘Scuse me while I mix up voiced and voiceless-unaspirated stops : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:11:40 +0000 http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/#comment-1720 [...] onset time (VOT), we can actually classify consonants in three different ways. (I’ve actually discussed voice onset time before, but now that I’ve already made nicer looking graphics for teaching, it seems worth doing [...] [...] onset time (VOT), we can actually classify consonants in three different ways. (I’ve actually discussed voice onset time before, but now that I’ve already made nicer looking graphics for teaching, it seems worth doing [...]

]]> By: James http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-1253 James Sat, 02 Oct 2010 05:10:37 +0000 http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/#comment-1253 @megat: t and d differ in voicing and possibly aspiration, depending on what language you're referring to. l and d differ rather greatly; l is a lateral approximate (air isn't stopped from moving at all, instead it just flows over the sides of your tongue). e and ə are just different vowels; ə is more central (also called a "schwa") @linguisticmysic: Korean doesn't really use voiced stops (although they do sometimes become voiced between vowels). Instead, Korean uses aspirated, unaspirated, and tense consonants, although exactly how tense consonants are pronounced is still something of a mystery to me. They sound quite a bit like unaspirated stops, but the manner of articulation seems a little bit like a very weak ejective. @megat: t and d differ in voicing and possibly aspiration, depending on what language you’re referring to.
l and d differ rather greatly; l is a lateral approximate (air isn’t stopped from moving at all, instead it just flows over the sides of your tongue).
e and ə are just different vowels; ə is more central (also called a “schwa”)

@linguisticmysic: Korean doesn’t really use voiced stops (although they do sometimes become voiced between vowels). Instead, Korean uses aspirated, unaspirated, and tense consonants, although exactly how tense consonants are pronounced is still something of a mystery to me. They sound quite a bit like unaspirated stops, but the manner of articulation seems a little bit like a very weak ejective.

]]> By: megat http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-887 megat Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:50:13 +0000 http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/#comment-887 what are the features that distinguiish between the folowing sounds: t and d l and d e and ə what are the features that distinguiish between the folowing sounds:
t and d
l and d
e and ə

]]> By: The content-personality continuum of blogs (and a blog-meme) : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-445 The content-personality continuum of blogs (and a blog-meme) : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:25:22 +0000 http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/#comment-445 [...] I can hear the difference between aspirated, unaspirated and voiced stops, but I have trouble reliably making unaspirated [...] [...] I can hear the difference between aspirated, unaspirated and voiced stops, but I have trouble reliably making unaspirated [...]

]]> By: I'm very pregnant that I'm late: The joys of foreign language miscommunication : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-376 I'm very pregnant that I'm late: The joys of foreign language miscommunication : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:35:55 +0000 http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/#comment-376 [...] I suspect that the Aspirated/Unaspirated distinction might be causing problems: sewid [...] [...] I suspect that the Aspirated/Unaspirated distinction might be causing problems: sewid [...]

]]> By: Theta and Eth, your new Phonetic Phriends : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Theta and Eth, your new Phonetic Phriends : Notes from a Linguistic Mystic Sat, 06 Jan 2007 03:28:56 +0000 http://linguisticmystic.com/2006/12/28/unaspirated-ts-from-the-mouth-of-babes/#comment-110 [...] Before we discuss our new phriends, we have to talk a little about how we make some consonants. I’ve discussed the idea of “voicing” before, in my post “Unaspirated T’s from the mouths of Babes“, but I think it might be helpful to review the idea and rephrase a little bit. In the above post, I recommended that readers do the following quick experiment to get a sense of what voicing means. Give it a try again, if you’d like: Put your fingers on your neck (guys, find your adam’s apple) and say “Ahhhhhhhh”. You’ll feel a vibration. That’s your vocal folds vibrating to give the A its sound. Now, keep your fingers there and say “Dadadadadadadada”. You’ll feel your tongue moving, but the vibration will be pretty constant. Now, try “Tatatatatatatata”. This time, the vibrations will feel like they’re going on an off, off during the T, on during the A. This is because, as I said above, T is a “Voiceless” sound, and D is “voiced”. (If you’re still interested, try the same with “Kakaka” and “Gagaga”, as well as “papapa” and “bababa”). [...] [...] Before we discuss our new phriends, we have to talk a little about how we make some consonants. I’ve discussed the idea of “voicing” before, in my post “Unaspirated T’s from the mouths of Babes“, but I think it might be helpful to review the idea and rephrase a little bit. In the above post, I recommended that readers do the following quick experiment to get a sense of what voicing means. Give it a try again, if you’d like: Put your fingers on your neck (guys, find your adam’s apple) and say “Ahhhhhhhh”. You’ll feel a vibration. That’s your vocal folds vibrating to give the A its sound. Now, keep your fingers there and say “Dadadadadadadada”. You’ll feel your tongue moving, but the vibration will be pretty constant. Now, try “Tatatatatatatata”. This time, the vibrations will feel like they’re going on an off, off during the T, on during the A. This is because, as I said above, T is a “Voiceless” sound, and D is “voiced”. (If you’re still interested, try the same with “Kakaka” and “Gagaga”, as well as “papapa” and “bababa”). [...]

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